Thought of the day

Ask someone what their political orientation is, or if they’re typically liberal or conservative, and it won’t be uncommon to get a response to the effect of “None. I don’t fit these labels so easily.” These people are usually wrong.

It’s just a simple fact that most people fall into general categories. Telling me you’re a conservative doesn’t tell me all your views, but it gives me a general idea. And chances are great that any given person will find themselves agreeing primarily with one political party or one ideology. It’s obnoxious to deny this.

But it's just the fringe!

Anytime I’ve brought up the horrors of what religion did to Kara Neumann, my point is always ‘countered’ with the argument that I’m merely giving an example of some fringe lunatics who are motivated through some form of mental illness or insanity. None of that is true. The monsters in the example I provide ran a successful business and were a normal part of their community. Not only that, but if I bend over backwards* and pretend like none of that matters and that, indeed, they were merely fringe examples, it doesn’t matter because there are 30 (!) states which have laws protecting the religious right to abuse one’s child by refusing medical care for him or her. There are rarely limits placed on this besides death. That means 30 (!) states allow parents to forgo medical treatment in favor of prayer or faith healing as long as they don’t kill their children. 60% of the state governments in the United States doesn’t sound like fringe to me.

And so there is yet another example of religion destroying the minds of otherwise reasonable people in the news. It’s a bill in The Bahamas that would outlaw marital rape. You’d think it’d be common sense, yet here we are with statements like this.

“It is ridiculous for them to try to make that a law, because I don’t think a man can rape his own wife. After two people get married, the Bible says that they become one – one flesh. How is it possible to rape what is yours?” asked Mr. Sutherland.

Keep in mind, this isn’t a story about a couple people who don’t like the bill. The issue is significant down there. The article states it is a majority of men who do not support this bill. There are even some women. And then there’s this.

State Minister for Social Development Loretta Butler-Turner said that over the summer months, the government would host a number of consultative meetings to better inform the public on exactly what the amendment entails.

Obama needs to go out and sell his health care reform at public events. That’s understandable. Just how to go about fixing the broken system of health care in the United States is a contentious issue with a lot of special interests, concerns for different age groups, bureaucracy, and a whole host of other things which need to be addressed as comprehensively as possible. That calls for nothing less than large-scale engagement with the public. And then there’s this issue in The Bahamas. It isn’t so complicated: Don’t rape your fucking wife, you degenerate, immoral scumbag.

In a secular society, this inanity would only be possible with legitimate instances of insanity. Religion is the pure motivation behind the efforts of those opposed to this bill in The Bahamas.

*It seems like I can give virtually every religious argument huge concessions and still make my point without injury.

But it’s just the fringe!

Anytime I’ve brought up the horrors of what religion did to Kara Neumann, my point is always ‘countered’ with the argument that I’m merely giving an example of some fringe lunatics who are motivated through some form of mental illness or insanity. None of that is true. The monsters in the example I provide ran a successful business and were a normal part of their community. Not only that, but if I bend over backwards* and pretend like none of that matters and that, indeed, they were merely fringe examples, it doesn’t matter because there are 30 (!) states which have laws protecting the religious right to abuse one’s child by refusing medical care for him or her. There are rarely limits placed on this besides death. That means 30 (!) states allow parents to forgo medical treatment in favor of prayer or faith healing as long as they don’t kill their children. 60% of the state governments in the United States doesn’t sound like fringe to me.

And so there is yet another example of religion destroying the minds of otherwise reasonable people in the news. It’s a bill in The Bahamas that would outlaw marital rape. You’d think it’d be common sense, yet here we are with statements like this.

“It is ridiculous for them to try to make that a law, because I don’t think a man can rape his own wife. After two people get married, the Bible says that they become one – one flesh. How is it possible to rape what is yours?” asked Mr. Sutherland.

Keep in mind, this isn’t a story about a couple people who don’t like the bill. The issue is significant down there. The article states it is a majority of men who do not support this bill. There are even some women. And then there’s this.

State Minister for Social Development Loretta Butler-Turner said that over the summer months, the government would host a number of consultative meetings to better inform the public on exactly what the amendment entails.

Obama needs to go out and sell his health care reform at public events. That’s understandable. Just how to go about fixing the broken system of health care in the United States is a contentious issue with a lot of special interests, concerns for different age groups, bureaucracy, and a whole host of other things which need to be addressed as comprehensively as possible. That calls for nothing less than large-scale engagement with the public. And then there’s this issue in The Bahamas. It isn’t so complicated: Don’t rape your fucking wife, you degenerate, immoral scumbag.

In a secular society, this inanity would only be possible with legitimate instances of insanity. Religion is the pure motivation behind the efforts of those opposed to this bill in The Bahamas.

*It seems like I can give virtually every religious argument huge concessions and still make my point without injury.

Gary Habermas

I’m taking a look at Gary Habermas. Ignoring for a moment that he willingly works for a “university” which openly teaches the idiocy of young Earth creationism, he presents an especially weak case from around the two minute mark until just after three minutes.

Basically, the guy from Skeptic Magazine points out that people having significant changes in their lives due to something they report they saw isn’t evidence of anything. If it is, as he notes, then Habermas should be giving Islam equal footing. Habermas then gives a rebuttal where he says his point “was that the disciples weren’t just changed, they were changed because they saw the risen Jesus”. I hope you watch this video. The very next sentence out of his mouth is “Now, transformations cannot prove what somebody’s saying”. He then proceeds to note that transformations can prove that somebody believes what he is teaching. They actually can’t – it’s the credence the listener/reader gives to a person espousing a transformation that gets one to conclude whether the person is being genuine or not. Take Ted Haggard. He had no problem claiming to be on the path back to righteousness and heterosexuality, but that obviously wasn’t true. But, as usual, I’ll bend over backwards and pretend the argument works. EVEN if I grant that transformations can prove the sincerity of an individual, the mere fact that someone genuinely believes something is not evidence that that something is true. I genuinely believe there is no God. Is Habermas going to take that as evidence against the resurrection of Jesus?

The Argument From Scripture

This is part of a section from The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. It can be found in chapter 3, “Arguments For God’s Existence”, under the section titled “The Argument From Scripture”. I have retyped this myself, so any typos are probably mine (except for “fulfil” – that’s apparently how the British spell it). The only part where I interject is with the asterisk.

There are still some people who are persuaded by scriptural evidence to believe in God. A common argument, attributed among others to C.S. Lewis (who should have known better), states that, since Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, he must have been either right or else insane or a liar: ‘Mad, Bad or God’. Or, with artless alliteration, ‘Lunatic, Liar or Lord’. The historical evidence that Jesus claimed any sort of divine status is minimal. But even if that evidence were good, the trilemma on offer would be ludicrously inadequate. A fourth possibility, almost too obvious to need mentioning, is that Jesus was honestly mistake. Plenty of people are. In any case, as I said, there is no good historical evidence that he ever thought he was divine.

The fact that something is written down is persuasive to people not used to asking questions like: ‘Who wrote it, and when?’ ‘How did they know what to write?’ ‘Did they, in their time, really mean what we, in our time, understand them to be saying?’ ‘Were they unbiased observers, or did they have an agenda that coloured their writing?’ Ever since the nineteenth century, scholarly theologians have made an overwhelming case that the gospels are not reliable accounts of what happened in the history of the real world. All were written long after the death of Jesus, and also after the epistles of Paul, which mention almost none of the alleged facts of Jesus’ life. All were then copied and recopied, through many different ‘Chinese Whispers generations’ (see Chapter 5*) by fallible scribes who, in any case, had their own religious agendas.

A good example of the colouring by religious agendas is the whole heart-warming legend of Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem, followed by Herod’s massacre of the innocents. When the gospels were written, many years after Jesus’ death, nobody knew where he was born. But an Old Testament prophecy (Micah 5: 2) had led Jews to expect that the long-awaited Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. In the light of this prophecy, John’s gospel specifically remarks that his followers were surprised that he was not born in Bethlehem: ‘Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee? Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?’

Matthew and Luke handle the problem differently, by deciding that Jesus must have been born in Bethlehem after all. Buy they get him there by different routes. Matthew has Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem all along, moving to Nazareth only long after the birth of Jesus, on their return from Egypt where they fled from King Herod and the massacre of the innocents. Luke, by contrast, acknowledges that Mary and Joseph lived in Bethlehem at the crucial moment, in order to fulfil the prophecy? Luke says that, in the time when Cyrenius (Quirinius) was governor of Syria, Caesar Augustus decreed a census for taxation purposes, and everybody had to go ‘to his own city’. Joseph was ‘of the house and lineage of David’ and therefore he had to go to ‘the city of David, which is called Bethlehem’. That must have seemed like a good solution. Except that historically it is complete nonsense, as A. N. Wilson in Jesus and Robin Lane Fox in The Unauthorized Version (among others) have pointed out. David, if he existed, lived nearly a thousand years before Mary and Joseph. Why on earth would the Romans have required Joseph to go to the city where a remote ancestor had lived a millennium earlier? It is as though I were required to specific, say, Ashby-de-la-Zouch as my home town on a census form, if it happened that I could trace my ancestry back to the Seigneur de Dakeyne, who came over with William the Conqueror and settled there.

Moreover, Luke screws up his dating by tactlessly mentioning events that historians are capable of independently checking. There was indeed a census under Governor Quirinius – a local census, not one decreed by Caesar Augustus for the Empire as a whole – but it happened too late: in AD 6, long after Herod’s death. Lane Fox concludes that ‘Luke’s story is historically impossible and internally incoherent’, but he sympathizes with Luke’s plight and his desire to fulful the prophecy of Micah.

*This was referenced earlier in the book. Chinese Whispers is what the British call Telephone, the game where one person whispers something to someone, then that person whispers to the next, and so on. At the end of the line, the last person repeats what he heard. Usually, what he heard was much different from what was originally said.

Your genes, sleep, fruit flies, mice, and Palin

Despite the fact that she is a whiny, genuinely stupid quitter, Sarah Palin has been popping up all over the place lately. Most recently she has been spouting off some garbage that Obama wants to set up a “death panel” in the health care bill. In truth, the bill calls for discussing one’s living will (and related concerns) with a doctor, should one choose to do that. This serves to better protect the interests of the patient. Such a measure could have avoided that whole Terri Schiavo fiasco. But, again, Palin is genuinely stupid. She never knows what’s going on. She makes this clear – literally – every single time she publicly speaks. She was especially clear when she said some remarkably stupid things about fruit fly research during the campaign season. I mention all this because of some recent research which relied on fruit flies*, and which can have a direct impact on the health of people.

Scientists have discovered the first gene involved in regulating the optimal length of human sleep, offering a window into a key aspect of slumber, an enigmatic phenomenon that is critical to human physical and mental health.

The article is well worth the read, and will probably give a fuller picture than I’m going to give. It’s all about a gene which has some seemingly minor variations, yet these variations (alleles) can drastically affect the health of the carrier.

The researchers found that mutated versions of the gene can affect the time some people go to bed, wake up, and how well they physically, emotionally, and mentally perform throughout the day. For instance, most people need roughly 8 hours of sleep a night, but one gene variant allows some to get back on 6 hours while not experiencing adverse consequences to their health.

And of course, this research was possible due to the contributions of various mice and fruit flies. When researchers would find a particular variant of this gene, they would ‘tinker’ with the same gene in these test subjects and measure the effects. One finding was that genetically engineered mice would compensate far less for sleep deprivation than would the control mice.

It isn’t clear yet exactly what it is about this gene (DEC2) which triggers the change in sleep need, but it may be that it makes protein transcription weaker, but other explanations are possible until more research is done.

*What genetic research doesn’t rely on fruit flies these days?

Thought of the day

Whatever the motive, the consequence is that if a reputable scholar breathes so much as a hint of criticism of some detail of current Darwinian theory, the fact is eagerly seized on and blown up out of all proportion. So strong is this eagerness, it is as though there were a powerful amplifier, with a finely tuned microphone selectively listening out for anything that sounds the tiniest bit like opposition tp Darwinism. This is most unfortunate, for serious argument and criticism is a vitally important part of any science, and it would be tragic if scholars felt the need to muzzle themselves because of the microphones. Needless to say the amplifier, though powerful, is not hi-fi: there is plenty of distortion! A scientist who cautiously whispers some slight misgiving about a current nuance of Darwinism is liable to hear his distorted and barely recognizable words booming and echoing through the eagerly waiting loudspeakers.

~Richard Dawkins

This really captures a fundamental aspect of the dishonesty present in so many creationists (especially the public ones).

Ask yourself

Ask yourself, how much respect would you offer the idea that Earth is flat? Not much, though you may not outright mock the person promoting that idea. Most likely, you’d just ignore the guy and move on. But what if it wasn’t just one person? What if you had a huge swath of the country which thought there was legitimacy to this idea? Those people vote. Those people have a voice. They can tell their senator, no, we don’t want funding for NASA because it predicates its gravity boosts for its spacecraft on the idea that Earth and all the other planets are not flat. Do you think you might have a problem with flat-Earthers then? Do you think maybe you’d stop giving them the impression that what they thought was legitimate?

This is why scientists (and atheists) are so willing to laugh, mock, and dismiss creationists.

Health care

The Republicans seem to only be able to lie about Obama’s health care bill. Palin, Limbaugh, Carr, Hannity, and all the other conservative morons are out there lying, claiming that the government is going to set up a death panel. What’s more, they are under the false impression the United States has the best health care in the world. It does not. In fact, the World Health Organization ranked it 37th in 2000.

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia

I’m not sure which is more embarrassing, this or United States’ evolution ranking.

Giberson

Karl Giberson and Darrel Falk have a column stating that they are scientists and they believe in both God and evolution.

We are scientists, grateful for the freedom to earn Ph.D.s and become members of the scientific community. And we are religious believers, grateful for the freedom to celebrate our religion, without censorship. Like most scientists who believe in God, we find no contradiction between the scientific understanding of the world, and the belief that God created that world.

Most of the article is just an emphasis on this basic statement. I was hoping to get a substantial post out of this when I first saw it, but I’m scavenging here.

We are trained scientists who believe in God, but we also believe that science provides reliable information about nature. We don’t view evolution as sinister and atheistic. We think it is simply God’s way of creating. Yet we can still sleep soundly at night, with Bibles on our nightstands, resting atop the latest copy of Scientific American.

It isn’t surprising that they use “and” rather than “or” between sinister and atheistic. Christians love to associate atheism with all sorts of evil things. Don’t believe it.

Our belief that God creates through evolution is a satisfying claim uniting our faith and our science. This is good news.

This is only good news for those who have long realized that religion and science are at odds, but who wish to bring the two together, ignoring all the issues raised. For instance, how can one maintain that prayer can affect the natural world, yet then ignore the scientific studies which show that, no, that is not true. Or, alternatively, claim that science cannot measure the supposed effects of prayer. Of course it can! The claim is that X occurs in the natural world. If that’s the case, it is always subject to study using the scientific method. The natural world (i.e., reality) is science’s realm. Enter your fairy tales into it and you leave the safe haven of the supernatural, mythical world.

There is nothing satisfying about a claim uniting Christianity (or any religion) and science. One makes claims about the natural world without evidence while the other is predicated on the very idea that evidence is absolutely critical in determining the truth of anything, especially counter-intuitive or improbable claims. There are only two gods which can work with science: a hands-off deity and a god which only works through natural laws. The first is pretty harmless. The claim is simply that God X set the Universe in motion. That temporarily satisfies the first cause-question, though it quickly falls apart when one asks “Well, what created God X?”. The other god, the one that works purely through natural laws, is only superfluous. This one can have theology around it and thus can be quite dangerous. However, as far as science goes, its use is as good as me saying that fairies guided every particle into place at all times. There’s no evidence for my fantastic claim, but it doesn’t technically interfere with what science says. But, of course, a god which causes virgin births, turns water into wine, and floods the entire Earth is far from being compatible with science. Very, very far.

Huh, look at that. Turns out even the short dumb things the New Creationists say can generate a lot of rebuttal.