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Blasphemy Day
My recent Thomas Jefferson kick…
…continues.
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
This must apply to same-sex marriage. What arguments have been presented which counter this principle? The answer is none. The desire to institute (or rather, continue) intolerance into the law books has no good basis. No case has been made clear. No case can be made. This puts one group firmly in the category of bigots. Worse yet, the other group is categorized as the oppressed.
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Jefferson, the Supreme Court, and Rights
There are some key points which need to be considered in deciding the need to legally allow – and protect – marital rights for particular groups. I want to focus on what Thomas Jefferson wrote, what the Supreme Court has said in cases which can be extended by principle to same-sex rights, and what are some fundamental concepts of what define rights. This is an extension of a recent post.
A central concept of what defines an important part of American society is the ‘separation of Church and State’. Jefferson coined this phrase in his Letter to the Danbury Baptists. But he said something more than that, something which speaks of the role of government regarding rights in general.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for is faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
The man was not one for ambiguity. The government should not be in the role of legislating morality. Its role is to protect the freedoms of its citizenry. If there are actions which happen to be immoral and the government outlaws them, it is not because of the question of morality; it is because those actions infringe upon the rights of others. That morality is imposed de facto is incidental.
But this is not to say that morality does not get directly legislated. It does. And that’s unfortunate. But Jefferson loathed such a notion. He was clear on this. What one believes and does is not of concern to the government except insofar as said beliefs and actions make a real world impact; they must restrict the rights or freedoms of others, cause physical or financial harm to others, or rob the property of others. If one’s beliefs and actions do none of these things, the government is not to give its say. Jefferson embraced this principle.
There’s another important concept that Jefferson subsumed. When writing the Declaration of Independence, as I said in my aforementioned/aforelinked post, Jefferson wrote of non-temporal, transcending, universal rights. He wasn’t specific to his culture or to his race (though slavery was legislated as a matter of the fact that it was something that existed and needed to be addressed, whether any one liked it or not). No, instead he wrote a sweeping declaration of the rights of all people, something that was far larger than the conflict facing Great Britain and its American colonies. One of those declared, inalienable rights was the pursuit of happiness. Its importance cannot be understated.
In the 1967 Supreme Court case Loving v. Virginia (how appropriate a plaintiff in how appropriate a state in which for this to have happened), Chief Justice Warren wrote, “The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.” He was ruling on an anti-miscegenation law. That’s a law which prohibits the mixing of racial groups in various settings, often including marriage. It was easy to recognize just how illegitimate a law it was. It prohibited and restricted the freedoms and rights of an entire group of people and for no good reason. Interracial marriage offered no impact on the rights of others, no infringement upon their lives, liberties, or pursuits of happiness.
Expanding upon this concept of rights I have laid out is this either unsourced or poorly sourced quote. It may be from a man by the name Marty Lewinter.
“As Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, ‘The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins.’ Rights must apply to everyone in the same sense at the same time. So rights must therefore be limited to claims of freedom to do anything which does not violate the freedoms of others. This requires recognizing, respecting and abiding by anyone else’s wishes to be left alone whenever he wants, and his wishes to be free to do anything which doesn’t violate others. This is why no one can claim a ‘right’ to interfere with your life in any way without your explicit, personally-given consent for a specified purpose. There can be no such thing as a ‘right’ for anyone (or any group) to mess with you whenever he wants (or whenever they want) since it obviously isn’t applying to YOU in the same sense at the same time.
Regardless of who said this, it encompasses a principled, universal idea of what rights really are. An individual’s rights should go as far as possible. Where the limit comes is from the infringement upon the rights of others. In order to justify the restriction of the rights of a person or group, it must be shown that said person or group never really had the rights in question in the first place; if that person or group is infringing upon others, they are doing it not by the free exercise of their own rights, but by the exercise of something else, something probably sinister. No person or group has the inalienable right to negatively impact the rights of another person or group.
This all aptly applies to same-sex marriage. There has been no convincing case made against allowing all adults into the institution of marriage. The union of two consenting individuals says nothing of the rights of two unrelated*, independent individuals. There is no infringement upon others. Same-sex marriage violates no one’s rights.
The outlawing of same-sex marriage, on the other, hand does offer a violation of the principles set forth by Jefferson, utilized by the Supreme Court, and embraced by philosophers, professors, and thinkers. By denying rights to a group, it must be shown that they are causing some form of harm through action. This harm must happen to people who did not consent to having any action imposed upon them. To date, no one has made out a good** case that any harm has or can or will be done to anyone. What has been made abundantly clear, however, is that the denial of certain freedoms and rights to the gay community, especially concerning marriage, does infringe upon many of the ideals espoused by the aforementioned groups and entities. By disallowing same-sex marriage, government is disallowing a rightful pursuit of happiness. It has not a right to do any such thing. Indeed, it has a specific obligation to explicitly do otherwise.
*This does not refer to familial relations. But to address the point, same-sex unions also say nothing of the rights of those in the family of the couple.
**Hell, the cases laid out so far are so awful, calling them “bad” would raise their status to an undue level.
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The Founding Fathers
These men operated on principles. When John Adams asked Jefferson to write the Declaration of Independence, he was seeking a document that declared the rights of the colonists as Englishmen. That isn’t to say that Adams wanted anything to do with the British. He just had a narrow view of what was necessary to declare independence. He wanted Jefferson to make the point that they were all Englishmen and should thus be treated justly – and soon separately.
But Jefferson would have no part of such a view. He instead wrote a document declaring not just the rights of Englishmen, but of all men. Adams was surprised by this – and much delighted.
Being against individual rights, therefore, would run counter to what these men believed. This is especially true if we were to transport them into modern times with modern context. For example, many of them held slaves (though with better treatment than the average slave – not that they were justified with owning people in the first place, obviously). We cannot go from that point and say that the founding fathers would therefore hate the freedoms that are enjoyed by all races. Take them outside their time with a modern point of view built upon their principles and you inevitably end up with anti-slavery views.
The same would apply to homosexuality, I think. These men were deists, so they were untainted by religious bigotry. In fact, the original starting line to the Declaration of Independence was one that was anti-Christian. And since there is no good secular reasoning as to why we should not allow same-sex marriage, I think these men would be forced by their principles to favor it.
But even should I be wrong about that, it is certain that they would hate the purely religiously based arguments against same-sex marriage. Adams often sneered at the idea of Christianity itself. Jefferson coined the phrase ‘separation of church and state’. All these men greatly opposed having any religion make a marked influence on the role of government. Given that marriage licenses are a purely governmental (and secular) affair, there is no way they could have stood for all this anti-same-sex marriage malarkey.
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More dumb newspaper
I recently wrote about the stink of dumb coming from my local newspaper. The new, conservative editor, after months of talking about health care and days of mentioning an upcoming speech by Obama, placed what was clearly the lead story (said speech) on the third page. The front page amounted to an advertisement for same-sex marriage bigots opponents. The editor has followed up with more inanity.
Law’s opponents gather in Augusta for strategy session
Christ. This was a closed-door, routine political campaign type meeting. It was not front page news. The editor – Richard L. Connor – is just a bigot pushing an agenda. That’s pretty much the norm for conservatives. But I have no problem with him voicing his silly little ill-begotten opinion in his unfortunately dwindling newspaper. As long as he does it in the editorial section. That’s where it belongs. He put his Christian-based bigotry on the front page at the expense of an actual news story. That makes him an awful editor with little to no common sense.
Ya know, this guy has a history of this sort of rubbish. When he first bought the paper, he made himself front page news to introduce himself. Okay, fair enough. But then a couple days later he did the exact same thing, except he took up something crazy like 46 inches to do it. I don’t think people subscribe to their local newspaper because they want to read about some egotistical conservative who has enough money to get his view out in the forefront.
On the upside, a reader wrote a letter making the same complaint I did.
The Sept. 10 edition of the Kennebec Journal devoted 30 column inches to the “anti-gay vow rally” planned for the following Sunday, featuring a banner headline on page one. President Barack Obama’s address on health-insurance legislation to a joint session of Congress rated 20 column inches on page 3.
Is something wrong with this picture?
A cynic might guess that the new owner of the KJ favors repeal of the law allowing gay couples to marry, and doesn’t support the president’s push to find a way to end our tragic health-care mess.
That viewpoint should appear on the editorial page, not in lopsided coverage on the news pages.
Jon Lund
Hallowell
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Op-Ed on Joe Wilson
Maureen Dowd has an op-ed in The New York Times. It’s about that whiny little brat who cannot apparently read or understand any legislation relating to the health care bill, Joe Wilson. You know the guy, he yelled “You lie!” when Obama said illegal immigrants wouldn’t be covered by any reformed health care. Yeah, he’s a full-fledged moron. But his problems with intelligence may run deeper than that.
Now [Obama’s] at the center of a period of racial turbulence sparked by his ascension. Even if he and the coterie of white male advisers around him don’t choose to openly acknowledge it, this president is the ultimate civil rights figure — a black man whose legitimacy is constantly challenged by a loco fringe.
I have to disagree with one point: the majority of the racist, bigoted, poorly educated Republican party which cannot accept being led by a black man isn’t exactly the “fringe”.
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Dumb newspaper
In recent months there has been a ruckus around town about the local paper, the Kennebec Journal. Some conservative guy bought it and has been printing the sort of editorials you might expect. Okay, whatever. I willingly listen to Howie Carr. I don’t mind hearing a conservative voice. Hell, they usually make for some good laughs. I guess dumbness can do that.
But there’s a different problem with this paper now. It isn’t that this guy has dumb views and prints dumb editorials. It’s that he is organizing the paper in a downright stupid way.
Obama made his speech to congress on health care on Wednesday night. This was no surprise. It had been mentioned countless times in the preceding days. Everyone was focused on it. It only makes sense that any good newspaper would have made it front page news. But the Kennebec Journal? Nah. It got pushed back to the third page or so. And what was on the front, you ask?
This was put out with what amounted to an advertisement for the event – ticket information, time, who to contact for more information. Other front page news had to do with an advisory concerning a virus (not swine flu) and an article about state revenue. These may be worthy of the front page, but the rally is not huge news. It’s a local political campaign. Obama’s speech has to do with issues that concern the nation. What’s more, this paper has had several stories discussing Republican ‘concern’ over the bill as well as various editorials. Clearly, the Kennebec Journal has an extensive interest in the topic, just like most people. Hell, just this week they had an article saying Obama needed to clarify his positions. Yet they go and pull this crap.
I don’t mind the conservative editorials, poorly reasoned as they may be. But I really rather not see straight-up stupid decisions about what constitutes a lead story.
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Bragging about stupidity
Steven Anderson is some crazy, religious windbag. That doesn’t really narrow the field, I know, but his claim to fame is publicly praying for Obama’s death by natural causes.
But that’s not what’s interesting about him. That belief sets him apart from much of mainstream Christianity (though the Bible and theology offer no methods to internally condemn his interpretation of God’s will). What’s interesting is what holds him close to the mainstream Bible thumpers. Of course there are the usual positions: he hates abortion, liberalism (which is just reality), and – of course – da gays. But then there’s this subtle piece that gets ignored far too much.
Pastor Anderson holds no college degree but has well over 100 chapters of the Bible committed to memory, including almost half of the New Testament.
Today, most Baptist churches are started by Bible Colleges. However, the Bible makes it clear that the church is the pillar and ground of the truth, not a school. Faithful Word Baptist Church is a totally independent Baptist church, and Pastor Anderson was sent out by a totally independent Baptist church to start it the old-fashioned way by knocking doors and winning souls to Christ. This is the scriptural method.
There isn’t really much reason to talk about not having a college degree. There shouldn’t be any pride in that. But for Christians and conservatives, it’s a point on which they puff their chests. Anderson is actually bragging about having no degree. He’s proud that he’s doing it “the old-fashioned way”, which is through willful ignorance. This should be roundly condemned.
Being proud of having a lack of education or feeling a sense of victory at criticizing intelligent people for using big, scary, intelligent words is why people like Larry the Cable Guy have been successful. (It certainly isn’t because he’s funny.) But this allegiance to stupidity is a blight on U.S. politics, too. Sarah Palin almost got elected to a national office. She’s one of the most genuinely stupid people to be given a voice. Her failure to think critically and to keep up with the clearly smarter people on the left is what lifted her up so high. Her simplicity appealed to the high number of simple people in the U.S. Bobby Jindal will probably become a big star for the same reason soon.
It’s pride in stupidity that keeps the idea that faith is a virtue alive. It’s pathetic.
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Vermont begins equality
Same-sex marriages have officially begun in Vermont. All monuments still stand, children are just fine, and no storms have ravaged the Ben & Jerry factory.
Maine is currently facing possible discrimination by the will of many of its Christians. One of the primary groups pushing for bigotry is the Maine Family Policy Council. You can tell just by the arrogance in its name that it’s bad news. Who the hell would want people who cannot justify their own beliefs*, who hate based upon an ancient cultural book, who have radically immature views on sex, who…well, the list goes on…who would want these people in charge of any policy regarding the privacy of one’s family?
Here’s a small taste of what these slime balls do. There’s a man who was arrested earlier this year on manslaughter charges. A few days before his arrest, he spoke at a public forum discussing Maine’s same-sex marriage bill (which passed and is now being challenged via a People’s Veto). Naturally, the MFPC is focusing on this guy a lot. It isn’t hard to find articles where this organization of immoral scumbags tries to connect homosexuality to logically leading to things such as manslaughter and murder.
One plausible scenario is that the sadomasochistic activity on the night of the killing became more and more depraved until LaValle Davidson inflicted the greatest possible harm on his victim, that is, death. If the details of the crime come out at trial, the public will see a part of the homosexual lifestyle that is very different from the positive image the gay rights movement is trying to project.
That isn’t plausible at all, and it’s irresponsible to suggest to a group of gullible readers (Christians) that these words may actually represent facts. They do not.
But that isn’t the half of it. Go back to the first link I posted to their site and there’s something even worse.
The connection between homosexual activists from Southern California and the effort to foist same sex marriage on the people of Maine is a mysterious one. The individual most responsible for the success of gay marriage in Maine, Senator Larry Bliss of South Portland, was born and raised in Southern California, and both the victim and the alleged killer involved in the South Portland killing were from Southern California. The victim, Fred Wilson, had moved to South Portland only three years ago, and lived one half mile from Senator Larry Bliss in a comfortable home near Willard Beach. The Maine Legislature acknowledged Bliss’s leading role in enacting same sex marriage by making Bliss President of the Maine Senate for a day so he could sign the bill on behalf of the entire Senate.
This sort of illogical, monstrous, immoral, irresponsible, inane, butt-headed, stupid, crass, ill-conceived, incorrect nonsense reminds me of the other bad arguing styles of Christians. The difference in the other styles in that link, however, is that they are intentionally reduced to being especially absurd. The above quote isn’t humorous at all. It’s just evil. If there has ever been a call to show a prime example of some widely-accepted dangerous thought as wrought by mainstream religion in the United States, this answers that call. People who have no moral qualms with connecting a random man with such an awful death should not be given any respect at all. The deference we give these people cannot be justified. Yet as November makes it way here I suspect I will continue to see people from this organization quoted in local papers and interviewed on the local news.
*Falling back upon faith – something all religious people necessarily must do – is falling back upon nothing at all. It implicitly says “I have no evidence, and thus cannot actually justify my beliefs. I just have them because I have them because I have them. It’s faith.”
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Atheist group wins lawsuit in Kentucky
If you recall, an atheist group sued in Kentucky over a stupid law requiring Kentucky Office of Homeland Security to stress “dependence on Almighty God as being vital to the security of the commonwealth.”
State Rep. Tom Riner, D-Louisville, a Southern Baptist minister, placed the “Almighty God” language into a homeland security bill without much notice.
Riner said Wednesday that he is unhappy with the judge’s ruling. The way he wrote the law, he said, it did not mandate that Kentuckians depend on God for their safety, it simply acknowledged that government without God cannot protect its citizens.
“The decision would have shocked and disappointed Thomas Jefferson, who penned the words that the General Assembly paraphrased in this legislation,” Riner said.
Riner doesn’t know his history too well. Jefferson would have hated this blatant attempt to join one religion over the expense of all other beliefs. He also would have rejected the very premise of stressing God’s role in securing the protection of Kentucky. The man did not believe in miracles or the general intervention of a particular, cultural god in human affairs. He was a deist who didn’t have such an incredibly small-minded notion of a creator.
Attorney General Jack Conway defended the law in court, arguing that striking down such laws risked creating a secular society that is wholly separated from religion.
Uh…that’s exactly what Jefferson and the other founding fathers intended the United States to be. I’m glad the court agreed.
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