When faced with evidence

I’ve noticed that when creationists are faced with direct evidence, they fold. They give up the specific argument for generalities and rhetoric. I am thinking of a couple of specific instances.

Back when I accepted an invitation to see a screening of Expelled, I presented a few specific arguments. The first one was in response to that entirely dumb creationist conflation: ‘Evolution says the world came from nothing, from some Big Bang’. Well, clearly, that is not true. Evolution is about how organisms change over time. It is not a theory within physics. Upon pointing this out, the creationist response was to move on to how people just want to reject God. They so badly want to have no responsibility that they’ll latch on to any old theory. (Remember, these are creationists, so “theory” here doesn’t mean the same as “scientific theory“.) They ignored the argument. They made a false claim. I countered it with a true statement. They surely continued believing in the falsehood, but rather than to present a counter-argument to support their continued belief, they folded.

This is yet another coy creationist tactic. These people have no real meat to their beliefs, so they just move from poorly fashioned concept to poorly fashioned concept, hoping to dazzle us with their ability to believe in spite of all the empirical evidence. It’s astounding.

There are over 700 comments on this blog. A little more than 120 are my own. Most of the remaining are from creationists. They’re more than willing to discuss the color of the bike shed, but when it comes to some real meat, they’re nowhere to be seen. There are two detailed posts sitting below this one which have no responses. None. Maybe my writing just isn’t popular enough to fill my blog space, I can buy that. But c’mon. No one wants to counter any points I’ve raised (via Jerry Coyne)? methinks no one can.

More Christian Science

I’ve been kicking around some thoughts. There’s a lot of pseudoscience out there. It’s bull. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can tell it’s bull. So I’d like to put forth a challenge. This specifically goes out to Christian Science. Offer me some good evidence that believing really, really hard can heal a person. I’m not talking about spiritual healing. It’d be silly and worthless to seek evidence of something which is actively hidden from evidence. I’m talking about physical healing – something real.

To be fair, asking for evidence of magic is, of course, silly. However, as long as there are people out there making claims – ones which are dangerous – I feel it necessary to ask for some evidence. Given the nature of the people who so readily accept pseudoscience, it may be helpful to define what evidence is not:

  • It is not correlation – correlation is helpful, but just because Jimmy got better when you started praying does not mean your prayers did anything
  • It is not declaration – claim does not make a ‘miracle’ so
  • It is not anecdote – saying Jimmy was healed due to prayer does not offer much evidence; this crosses into my first point
  • It is not mystery – because something is yet unexplained by science does not mean God Did It.

These few points I’ve listed are pretty standard. I’d assume something as ‘true’ as Christian Science could surely offer up evidence which held to such standards? Nay, it should be lightyears ahead it’s so real!