“UnAmerican” is one of the most poorly defined terms in modern political rhetoric.
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It is a term bandied about by those who try to rob freedoms from others and would best be applied to themselves.
Oh yes double plus bad. Is it time already for the two minutes of hate? I only just had breakfast.
WTF are you on about, Nate? Whatever you disagree with is hate?
No no. Just a 1984 reference. But it certainly seems that liberals find whatever they disagree with to be hate or racism.
I simply don’t understand the crucifying of certain words because you disagree with their usage or definition. UnAmerican is a hard to define term, and yes often used, but everyone trying to say their values are more in line with America as a whole.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2010/01/01/hardball-joan-walsh-calls-republican-critics-obama-un-american-traitor
For example.
You use Hardball as a reference? Might as well use Colbert Report. LOL
Walsh happens to have a valid point Claiming Obama is not a US citizen, etc. is part of the hatred.
I thought we were talking about the term UnAmerican
Nate, my observation is that it is the right who throw the accusation “unamerican” around to refer to anyone, usually on the left, that they don’t agree with. Exhibit A would be Ann Coulter.
Well you are probably right statistically. Let me toss out another poorly defined and over/misused term in politics: Racist
How many times have I heard that opposition to obamas policies or enforcing immigration law is ‘racist’?
If conservatives use unamerican inappropriately, than liberals use the term racism inappropriately and by doing so they belittle true racism when it occurs.
The tea party is primarily driven by racism. A huge portion of the southern electorate moved from the Democratic party to the Republican party in the 1960s onward due to racism. The right wing is festering with racism. You can deny it and they can try to hide it, but it is there, every day, as a large part of the US right wing psyche. There is some abuse of the term by liberals, but the vast majority of it is a correct labeling of the actions conservatives. Lately is has also included xenophobia, misogyny and homophobia.
I do deny it. It is nothing more than a talking point for liberals. I’m not racist in the least. Not giving favor to those of a different race and fight efforts to do so, is not racism.
The tea parties are in no way driven by racism. Have you been to one or are you regurgitating something said by Rachel Maddow?
I have no doubt there is racism AND there are racists at some tea party rallies. Which is no less than one can say about any group, demonstration or protest. But a few do not reflect the views of the whole.
How many of those terms you used apply to me?
Am I Racist?
Am I xenophobic?
Am I misogynous?
Am I homophobic?
I’ll expect explanations.
What a stupid comment. You are wrong about tea partyers in general and right wing in general. No one accused you personally of all those attributes. Straw man arguments always look ridiculous.
I was simply asking whether I was a foul creature of the right as you described them. Forgive me I am poor misinformed and ignorant conservative. As I find myself generally in agreement with the tea partiers I assumed I was a terrible beast that hates puppies.
Having attended many of the things myself I can say I’ve never seen any racist signs or heard hateful language used. Unless hating high taxes and ever expanding government is hate speech.
In fact they have a very friendly atmosphere compared with many other demonstrations.
Do you suffer from the delusion that the left of the political spectrum is any better than the right in regards to general behavior? I think you’ll find those on the right to be better behaved, I can’t remember hearing of many riots coming from functions of the vast right wing conspiracy.
Is it not the correct thing to say here, instead of condemning the right, that every party, every group has problems they need to clean up. That they are all hypocritical?
Its true. Those who fail to see their own faults…..
One does not see what one wishes to ignore. It has been all over the place, as pointed out by hundreds of media.
Then where the fuck were they when Bush took a surplus economy to a huge deficit. Hypocrites!
You mean comparing the few democrats in prison for betraying us compared to the dozens of Republicans? You are the deluded one.
No they horde guns and plan on blowing up police stations and Oklahoma bombings and succeeding from the US, and murdering presidents and senators and civil rights leaders. Again, you have it ass backwards. The right wing is far, far more violent.
I forgot to mention Watergate and Nicaragua and the NH Republican sabotaging the democrats a couple years ago and the Florida ballot box shenanigans. The examples are legion – in the thousands.
One does not see what one wishes to ignore. It has been all over the place, as pointed out by hundreds of media.
As also pointed out by many in the media, albeit not MSNBC or the huffington post, there have been endless attempts to discredit them by using plants. To counteract that they have started crowding around people with hateful signs with their own signs to make it clear they do not agree. You’ll never be able to rid any demonstration of people with malicious intent but you can make it clear the majority does not agree.
Then where the fuck were they when Bush took a surplus economy to a huge deficit. Hypocrites!
Who knows. The issue is not where they were than but that they are here now. Just because Obama is black doesn’t mean opposition is racist.
You mean comparing the few democrats in prison for betraying us compared to the dozens of Republicans? You are the deluded one.
Both parties are just as corrupt. Don’t try to make a case otherwise, I see a long tradition of Illinois governors going to prison and a long tradition of them being democrats.
No they horde guns and plan on blowing up police stations and Oklahoma bombings and succeeding from the US, and murdering presidents and senators and civil rights leaders. Again, you have it ass backwards. The right wing is far, far more violent.
Plots by a few are not representative of the whole. The burning of housing developments by “eco terrorists” and throwing blood on people wearing fur. The assassination attempt on Reagan, there were plots against Bush. None of these are representative of the left in this country as a whole.
Likewise small groups of right wingers cannot be attributed to the whole. There does seem to be a pretty high incidence of the FAR more common left wing protest becoming violent. This can probably be attributed to the higher rate of such protests though. The point is that a few do not equal the whole or even the majority.
Condemning one side but not the other is hypocritical. At least condemn both.
I put my backslash in the wrong place. Don’t hate me, but I do apologize
Typical of the right wing to blame others for what they do. It is a disgusting tactic that even the scum Nixon used.
Slimy bullshit statement.
There is an air tight case. !0:1 Republican corruption. Tom Delay, etc. etc.
You make a general statement against liberals without backing it up and I point to specific cases against the right wing and now you wave your hands with slimy general dismissal. I guess when you have no argument, this is the best you can do.
When, during Vietnam? Your statement is pure bullshit. How about all the Muslim countries and their far right wing violent protests? I guess you are blind to that. Same fanatical right wing – trying to rob freedoms and then they just murder. All of the violent protests in the US in the last 10 years have been all right wing.
A google search of “right wing violence” turns up a lot of results. So does a search of “left wing violence”
This actually illustrates the problems with the popular left right political spectrum.
Hitlers government along with fascist Italy would be considered “right wing” while Stalin’s Soviet Union would be considered left wing.
Not withstanding what the real truth is, the fact is placing these governments on the left-right scale just leads to political talking points rather than truth.
Republicans are not fascists and democrats are not communists. There really are no good political charts, they all have issues.
One of the “better” schemes is called the pournelle chart.
http://www.viswiki.com/en/Pournelle_chart
The obvious problem as the article explains is the use of the word irrational. As in so many other cases the limits of language are frustrating.
G-20 protesters just torched a cop car in Canada. I’m sure they were right wing plants, don’t worry.
Idiotic comment, but expected, of course.
Of course. I can’t let you make them all.
No, your batting 1.000 at making them all.
No one bat’s 1.000
But I’m unclear on one thing. How is that not an example?