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In regards to the recent shooting in Arizona:
If a Detroit Muslim put a map on the web with crosshairs on 20 pols, then 1 of them got shot, where would he be sitting right now? Just asking.
I think it’s a fair question.
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For the Sake of Science
Well if one of them got shot and the person that did it had no obvious ties to the Muslim that made the graphic I would assume nothing at all, as it would be unrelated.
What would happen if a democratic president referred to republicans as ‘the enemy’ and one of them got shot?
So far I haven’t seen anything that says this guy was even influenced by anyone other than himself.
Not to mention that it looks like the guy was semi obsessed with this congresswoman since 2007, before the tea parties even got big, before either party even held their primaries.
I don’t listen to what obese college drop outs say and really, no one else should either, he’s one step away from wearing a tin foil hat around.
Keep on defending the toxic atmosphere of right wing hatred, Nate. It needs to end. Only they do that kind of disgusting attitude.
Or maybe this is the counter solution. What do you think?
I think that’s fine. Would probably make a good t-shirt.
I’m wondering how you think that isn’t hateful though.
Of course it is hateful. The guy who created it is making a point about using reason instead of the type of hate displayed by Palin, Bachmann, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc. The right wing hate cretins.
Oh I see, he was making a point, well that makes it okay than.
You think the graphic on Palins website wasn’t making a point? Maybe one about target districts?
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/demmap.jpg%3Fw%3D397%26h%3D355&imgrefurl=http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2654012/posts&usg=__7xMG8PFbfHbYs5dfufB7SPZ46Ow=&h=355&w=397&sz=31&hl=en&start=72&zoom=1&tbnid=ENasB6dQqPyyfM:&tbnh=167&tbnw=187&prev=/images%3Fq%3D2004%2Bdemocratic%2Bbullseye%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1450%26bih%3D660%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1756&um=1&itbs=1&ei=r7grTYfcOsOblgeO28SPAg&iact=hc&vpx=395&vpy=341&dur=4546&hovh=182&hovw=204&tx=94&ty=112&oei=krgrTZ6ROcqr8Ab01qXCCg&esq=3&page=4&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:72&biw=1450&bih=660
Yes, hers is hateful and implies people should target them with guns. Even the fundy nutbags know what “reload” stands for.
It implies? To a 2 year old perhaps. No violence has occurred because of the graphic she had, you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
If you want to see what real hate looks like, check the comments section of the Huffington post or the Daily Kos.
Huffington post is not a liberal site. It is a whacko anti-science, woo filled moronic place. Every progressive blog hates it. Once in a while someone normal tries to post a sensible article but then regrets it.
Want to see real hate? Every Murdock media! Especially the fucktards at Fox. Scum buckets. To the person.
What if worms had machine guns….where would we be then? I am just wondering. You can what if this thing forever. How many death threats do you think Palin has received…or Limbaugh…
And yes…the Huffington Post is a liberal site.
I hear the same news on every channel. Again if you want to talk about opinion than Fox’s just differs from yours. There is only so much that can be done to ‘spin’ news itself. Its the interpretation you don’t like.
We should all just get our news from the Onion.
That’s a qoute attibuted to Michel Moore.I think it is a comment of the bias and prejudice americans have to anything non-christian!
Reigion is the cause.. Aethism is the answer.
By all accounts this guy was a lot more like an atheist than a religious person. Clearly it cannot solve the ill’s of the world.
Wrong. You must be listening to right wing spin media.
I watched his video. He really seems to be leaning more to your side than mine, not that I think that has anything to do with why he did it.
As someone said on Twitter, “So, Palin & crew are feeling unjustly blamed for the actions of an extremist. Maybe they can ask Muslims for advice on how to deal with that.”
Profiling is as good for the goose, etc.
Perhaps they can. I don’t think he is an extremist though. I think he is a lunatic. He has just as many crazy left wing views as crazy right wing views.
I’m all for profiling but how would you profile this guy? It wouldn’t be right wingers or left wingers it would be people that think their rice crispys are telling them to do things.
He does have ties to an anti-Semitic extreme-right-wing group. A Muslim organization with the vaguest interaction or link to a brown/Arab perpetrator is immediately questioned. So, do the same thing here. (Nothing may come of it, but let’s be consistent in our application of profiling and investigative techniques used after any terror incident).
How about we also do better background checks and not sell guns to people who publicly proclaim their rice krispies are telling them to do things? For starters. (I’m also pro-second-amendment, so not some gun-control liberal talking shit about guns kill people waaaah.)
Again, your interpretation, or spin. People who run around saying the government has taken over are almost exclusively right wing. He is also a registered Republican. Maiti also points out anti-Semitic right wing ties.
Apparently you read too much PZ Myers and not enough real news.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/jared-lee-loughner-was-a-regis.html
In his defense he did post a ‘retraction’
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/01/another_datum_for_our_armchair.php
And again you get caught up in this idea that the right/left scale really tells you anything about what a persons political beliefs are.
The implied answer is he’d be at Guantanamo Bay.
Well let’s look back to reality and see what happened to Nidal Malik Hasan. He was a radical Muslim who went on a shooting spree targeting American soldiers – he didn’t end up there.
Which is something one NEVER sees from Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh, or Hannity, etc. Other wise they would need to do it daily.
Which has what, even if true, to do with this?
The man wasn’t a republican, he didn’t even care enough to vote in this election, presumably being too busy conversing with breakfast foods to do so.
@New England Bob
People around him described him as a liberal. These are people that knew him. Are you calling them liars?
@ New England Bob
He was a nihilist…one step after an atheist, or basically the logical next step for an atheist who is no longer skeptical.
Atheism is not related to nihilism. Nut jobs and suicidal people are nihilists. Atheists enjoy reality. It’s all there is.
Your other question is juvenile and not worth bothering with because life is too short to waste time on it.
It doesn’t matter if the guy was liberal or conservative, he was a nut bar, that’s all anyone needs to know to determine who’s at fault here. It had nothing to do with this guys political affiliations.
The only thing that needs to be answered here is why was he able to shoot all those people, why wasn’t anyone else packing heat?
@New England Bob
So because you are wrong…the question becomes juvenile?
1. His classmates describe him as a liberal.
2. He is a registered independent
Those are the facts Bob.
Yes, quite juvenile. Look at how you phrased it:
Stop acting like a six year old. LOLOL
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110110/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot_gunman_11
The best article I’ve seen describing his craziness. It doesn’t mention rice crispys but I’m sure that true if everything else is.
Well…..are you? You are saying he is a republican…people that know him say he is not. Someone is right and someone is wrong. I am going out on a limb and saying….you are lying.
Kbcob, I laugh at you acting the six year old. Grow up. LOLOL