Obese sex is unnatural

Sex with obese individuals is unnatural, not intended by God, and thus wrong and immoral.

People are naturally attracted to healthy individuals. The obese are definitively not healthy. It follows, plainly and clearly, that any attraction to these people is a sexual perversion. Furthermore, those who are obese are gluttonous and thus sinners.

As a result of these facts, I propose a ban on all marriage to the obese. They harm society through their added burden to the healthcare system. They encourage children to think that obesity is acceptable, even though the Bible clearly bans it. Obesity is a scourge on the world which must be destroyed.

Only things deemed ‘natural’ and ‘intended by God’ can be considered normal, good, even moral. All else must go. It makes me go “Yuck!”

Maine legalizes gay marriage; society fails

Maine legalized gay marriage today. Oh, the humanity! Buildings are crumbling outside. Fish are coming up dead in the lake out back. People are dying. Animals have rabies. I saw an old guy fall. There’s a pot hole in the road. It’s all over, folks! Grab your canned beans and flashlights and hunker down. It’s May, but winter has come and it ain’t going anywhere.

Nearly six in 10 people ages 18 to 34 said same-sex marriages should be legal. Just over four in 10 people ages 35 to 49 agreed. Numbers were similar for 50- to 64-year olds, but only 24 percent of people 65 and older agreed.

My specific, cultural, particular, Abrahamic god! Once all the old geezers die, no People’s Veto is going to be able to save our non-animal, specially created souls.

Let's make it simple

The gay marriage issue is not about sexual orientation. I’ve said it again and again. It is about sex. Here is the best explanation why.

  • Straight man + straight woman = marriage
  • Straight man + gay woman = marriage
  • Straight man + gay man = no marriage
  • Straight man + straight man = no marriage
  • Gay man + gay man = no marriage
  • Gay man + gay woman = marriage
  • Straight woman + straight woman = no marriage
  • Straight woman + gay woman = no marriage
  • Gay woman + gay woman = no marriage

In every instance where a man and woman are on one side of the equation, marriage is allowed in every state. In every instance where the same sex is on the same side of the equation, marriage is not allowed in every state. The clear conclusion is that sexual orientation is not at issue in the least – legally speaking. Currently, the government is willfully discriminating on the basis of sex. That is illegal. It needs to stop.

Let’s make it simple

The gay marriage issue is not about sexual orientation. I’ve said it again and again. It is about sex. Here is the best explanation why.

  • Straight man + straight woman = marriage
  • Straight man + gay woman = marriage
  • Straight man + gay man = no marriage
  • Straight man + straight man = no marriage
  • Gay man + gay man = no marriage
  • Gay man + gay woman = marriage
  • Straight woman + straight woman = no marriage
  • Straight woman + gay woman = no marriage
  • Gay woman + gay woman = no marriage

In every instance where a man and woman are on one side of the equation, marriage is allowed in every state. In every instance where the same sex is on the same side of the equation, marriage is not allowed in every state. The clear conclusion is that sexual orientation is not at issue in the least – legally speaking. Currently, the government is willfully discriminating on the basis of sex. That is illegal. It needs to stop.

Vacuous

Joseph Reisert of Colby College recently wrote a tremendously flimsy, unballsy, muddling, vacuous, dumb piece about gay marriage in the local paper.

If you are sure that gay marriage is wrong, you need to listen to what same-sex couples have to say about their lives, their families and their relationships. Whatever your religion may teach about homosexuality, it is not the doctrines of any faith but the human testimony of our fellow citizens that must frame our laws.

And the testimony of our gay neighbors, friends, colleagues and relatives will make a compelling argument for the legal recognition of their relationships.

He starts out alright. Marriage between either combination of gender should be recognized by the government so as not to discriminate on the basis of, well, gender (most definitely not sexual orientation). Marriage is a secular contract where the government is concerned. As such, no compelling reasons exist for why there should be discrimination against both men and women – both straight men and women and gay men and women.

Why, they will ask, must they be compelled by the law to regard with shame something at the core of who they are?

Yes, who would ever think about forcing some separate-but-equal label on an entire group of people. Vermont recently recognized that civil unions, for example, do not fit their (or the federal) constitution. One action for one group can never be the same as a different action for another group.

But if you are sure that marriage must be redefined to include same sex couples, you need to listen to what traditionally inclined people have to say about their lives, their families and their relationships.

Uh-oh.

I was reared to believe that, absent some compelling reason, I should become a husband and father and that, in whatever career I might aspire to find success, nothing would be more important than fulfilling to the best of my abilities my duties to my wife and children. It is not for me to judge my success in those roles, but I will say that I think of myself first as a husband and father and only secondarily as a teacher and scholar.

Superficially, there’s nothing wrong with this. Being told that being a quality parent is one measure of success is most certainly not a bad thing; it’s a virtue. But when someone who doesn’t like working on the pretty looking surfaces digs down very slightly, it becomes clear what’s wrong here. Reisert is working with what he was literally told, not the principle behind what he was told. Such a willingness to work from convenience is one of the reasons rule internalization is so rampant. If Reisert looked at the principle behind what he had been told, he would likely find a strong emphasis on being a good member of a family. It just so happens that as an average male child, his likely future role in a family was as a husband and father. That isn’t really the point, and if it is, it’s a bad one.

How painful it is, then, to be told that the words “husband” and “wife” are objectionably discriminatory and must for that reason be effaced from the statute books. If the proposed changes to marriage are enacted, I will no longer be in the eyes of the law a husband and father, but only a spouse and a parent.

I have no wish to deny my gay relatives and friends any esteem, affection or recognition for who they are, but I claim the right to the same esteem, affection and recognition they desire.

The government is not in the business of making you feel good about your family role. Reisert needs to take responsibility for himself and figure out his own way to achieve a sense of esteem. Perhaps his family could provide this. Crazy idea, I know.

If the government gives Reisert the recognition he so greatly desires, it is inherently denying gay couples the rights they deserve. The statements he makes amount to nothing less than a call for a separate-but-equal policy institution.

If we are to take seriously the analogy frequently drawn between present-day prohibitions on same-sex marriage and the one-time prohibitions on interracial marriage, then we must say that taking pride in being a good husband to one’s wife is as discriminatory and wrong as being proud of the achievements of what used to be called “the white race.” To me, that is inconceivable.

I personally prefer logic, but I guess this will do for Reisert.

The analogy is inaccurate in its popular form. As I’ve said in the past, this is discrimination based upon gender, not sexual orientation; chromosomes are not germane to the ability to enter into a government-sanctioned contract. But I’ll assume for a moment that the analogy actually works. Reisert did not take it to its logical conclusion.

If Reisert understood his own point correctly, he wouldn’t be going off on drawing connections between “the white race” and husbandry. The former is outside the analogy and arbitrarily drawn into the fray because it seems like it could be related. It is not. Taking pride in being white is taking pride in something outside marriage. Taking pride in being a husband is something within marriage. If he had have talked about taking pride as a white husband, he could have drawn an analogy with taking pride as a straight husband. That would work because each one assumes virtues in something unrelated to husbandry. But he could also continue the analogy and place virtually any characteristic before “husband” (i.e., tall husband). He didn’t do this because 1) he doesn’t understand the analogy and 2) drawing connections with things like height and weight are less offensive than drawing connections with race.

Furthermore, Reisert has assumed a singular definition of “husband”. To him it means “male married to a female”. This is erroneous. A husband is a man in a marriage (or at least can be defined as one). It just so happens that history has discriminated on the basis of gender and (until recently) made all husbands men married to women.

It seems like the big problem here is that this guy wants to have the title “husband” because it has a sentimental meaning to him. Let him keep it. And also give it to any man who gets married. And “wife” can go to any woman. A “husband and husband” or “wife and wife” marriage poses no actual issue and allows straight couples to drop their dumb argument over sentiment and petty legalese.

It was right to abolish all racial distinctions in law because race has no biological reality and no moral significance. Sex, however, is a part of our nature. To deny its moral significance is to ask us to deny who we are.

Oh, come on. Sex has a “moral significance”? How so? Is it more moral to have a penis? Is it more moral to marry someone with complementary genitalia? Sex is unrelated to morality except where it is used as cause for discrimination. Reisert is doing just that under the guise of sentiment.

The rise of out-of-wedlock births has been a social calamity of the greatest magnitude, and all of us — straight and gay — bear its costs. To redefine marriage so as to deny recognition to the wives and husbands, fathers and mothers, who are striving to do their duty to one another as mates and to the fruit of their unions, is not only to encourage the separation of procreation from marriage,…

The government isn’t telling to you stop putting your penis into your wife.

but also to dishonor all those who feel that their lives are, in substantial part, defined by their acceptance and embrace of the natural and biological roles they feel they were born to fill.

When one groups’ definition of acceptance necessarily defines another group as being an unacceptable, separate-but-equal entity, that definition is one of discrimination, all gussied up in fairness and tolerance.

That is also the essence of the claim for recognition our gay friends and relatives make: being gay is who they are. But we should not deny difference to honor it. I love my mother, and I love my father, too. I do not pretend that they are the same: I just love them both equally. Nor should we have to pretend that gay relationships are exactly the same as straight ones to recognize and honor them. Let us find a way to honor both.

Jesus Tyrannosaurus Christ. This guy sucks at analogies. Flat out. If we take this to its logical conclusion then tall marriages are not exactly the same as short ones. Let us find a way to honor both.

What gay marriage is about

There’s this insipidly stupid argument floating around conservative (i.e., non-thinking) circles. It’s that gay marriage is all about children and societal security. This argument is designed to knock down the position that gay marriage is a civil rights issue.

Societies have a vested interest in the welfare of their children because they are the future of that society. A society is more likely to flourish if these children grow up to become responsible, productive and contributing members of that society. In the last half century, social science research has overwhelmingly validated what societies throughout history have learned through practical experience: Children do best by far on every measure of development, achievement and welfare when they are raised by their married biological parents.

In truth, this is an emotional appeal. In other words, it’s useless bull that doesn’t actually mean anything. Let’s start at the top.

The most glaring issue with this is the abuse of science. Aside from almost surely not citing any specific studies, the author is intentionally destroying context. That is, the studies he cites are comparing married parents to unmarried couples, single parents, and possibly parents who adopted. None of these categories is gay parents.

He’s begging the question here. He has set out to show that gay couples will make unstable homes for children yet he assumes that very idea in his argument. That is, he is assuming gay couples are equal to any couple which is not married and the biological parents of the children involved. But if he’s trying to prove that point, he most certainly cannot assume it in his argument. It’s a logical fallacy. “Gay parents are unfit. How do I know they are unfit? Because they are gay parents.”

But here’s the gem of the pro-bigot brigade. They argue that anti-discrimination activists are wrong to compare gay rights to civil rights.

Former Secretary of State General Colin Powell also rejects the argument that sexual orientation is comparable to race. He has testified that: “Skin color is a benign, nonbehavioral characteristic. Sexual orientation is perhaps the most profound of human behavioral characteristics. Comparison of the two is a convenient but invalid argument.”

The most interesting thing about all this is that both sides are wrong. Anti-discrimination activists are wrong because the civil rights being violated are not based upon sexual orientation. Pro-bigots are wrong because it is a civil rights issue. It just isn’t about sexual orientation.

Marriage is a secular contract between two people of sound capacity to consent to entering a legal agreement. In other words there are pertinent requirements to entering any contract recognized by the government. In this case they include being of age as determined by state, being willfull, and being able to understand the conditions of the contract. To say that two women cannot marry is discriminate based upon some external requirement to the ones listed. That “external requirement” is not sexual orientation. It is gender. Two women or two men are disallowed from entering a contract based upon gender. That is a civil rights issue. It is against the law – moreover, it is against all common sense. Pro-bigots don’t realize their rights are being trampled, too (mostly because they’re doing the ignorant trampling).

It is primarily to encourage the most positive outcomes for their children that societies encourage men and women to marry and provide special protections and incentives for this social institution. Because same-sex couples obviously cannot produce children, societies historically have never even contemplated allowing them to “marry.”

Liar. Or he’s stupid. Societies have never contemplated allowing gay marriage because societies have historically been filled with bigotry. It has nothing to do with children. But at any rate, this argument is only valid if it is extended properly. Infertile couples must be forbidden from marriage. Elderly couples beyond the ability to reproduce who do not already have children and grandchildren must get divorced; they do not fit the reason for marriage and are thus being rewarded with special protections and incentives without justification.

Legalizing same-sex marriage would so radically change the existing social institution of marriage that it would destroy its time-proven ability to provide essential benefits to society. It would transform marriage from a primarily child-centered institution into something that would be little more than governmental recognition of the professed affection of any two people for each other regardless of their gender.

This is just a bad argument. How does a married gay couple do anything to change the status of a married straight couple? Any interest there is for children in this secular contract can be maintained precisely the same as it has been for so many decades. It is nice, however, that he says “regardless of gender”. It’s good that there’s a twinkle of hope he realizes that this civil rights issue is centered around gender, not sexual orientation.

The link will eventually go dead (unless you want to pay $2.99 for access to old articles from a paper that normally costs $0.75), so I’m posting the article in full here.

Gerald Talbot (“Civil marriage about equal protection of all under the law”) is certainly entitled to his own opinion that allowing homosexuals to marry is a civil rights issue similar to the black civil rights struggle. But he appears to be outside of the mainstream thinking of most U.S. black leadership.

Barack Obama opposes same-sex marriage and he is not only the most prominent black political leader in the world but a former constitutional law professor. No one would seriously argue that he is not a champion of true civil rights.

Former Secretary of State General Colin Powell also rejects the argument that sexual orientation is comparable to race. He has testified that: “Skin color is a benign, nonbehavioral characteristic. Sexual orientation is perhaps the most profound of human behavioral characteristics. Comparison of the two is a convenient but invalid argument.”

Dee Garrett, a black civil rights leader in the South in the 1960s, also rejects the claim that this is a legitimate civil rights issue. In an eloquent statement that is posted on YouTube and was widely circulated in the California black community, she said, “It’s (same-sex marriage) not about civil rights. Racism was about civil rights. Marriage is about society, the future and about our children.”

In California, seven out of 10 black voters agreed and voted for Prop 8, which amended the state’s constitution to eliminate same-sex marriage. Many credit these black voters for passing the amendment.

Garrett understands what Talbot clearly does not. Marriage is not about adult needs, desires or convenience, whether for social and governmental recognition and acceptance, for economic advantages and tax breaks or simply to make their life easier. As she points out, marriage is primarily about children and the future of society. Understanding this fundamental truth allows us to place the demands of this tiny minority to be allowed to “marry” into the correct and socially responsible perspective.

Societies have a vested interest in the welfare of their children because they are the future of that society. A society is more likely to flourish if these children grow up to become responsible, productive and contributing members of that society. In the last half century, social science research has overwhelmingly validated what societies throughout history have learned through practical experience: Children do best by far on every measure of development, achievement and welfare when they are raised by their married biological parents.

It is primarily to encourage the most positive outcomes for their children that societies encourage men and women to marry and provide special protections and incentives for this social institution. Because same-sex couples obviously cannot produce children, societies historically have never even contemplated allowing them to “marry.”

Given the critical role of marriage in society, it is easy to understand that defending man/woman marriage is not discrimination. There is no inherent “right” to marry and societies have always regulated this institution for the best interests of society. Brothers and sisters or parents and children cannot marry, for example, nor can minors.

Legalizing same-sex marriage would so radically change the existing social institution of marriage that it would destroy its time-proven ability to provide essential benefits to society. It would transform marriage from a primarily child-centered institution into something that would be little more than governmental recognition of the professed affection of any two people for each other regardless of their gender.

There is absolutely no assurance that this new social institution of “genderless marriage” would, or even could, provide these same essential societal benefits. If it cannot, society and future generations will suffer serious harm. Whether to legalize genderless marriage is much more than a minority “rights” issue.

Bob Emrich, Plymouth, is director of the Maine Jeremiah Project, a grassroots coalition of social conservatives, organizations and churches who support “the sanctity of life, traditional family values, freedom of religion and educational choice” and a state constitutional amendment to protect marriage in Maine; http://www.mainejeremiahproject.com.

More victory

The conservatives get knocked down – hard – and all of a sudden, bigotry starts to peel away.

Vermont on Tuesday became the fourth state to legalize gay marriage — and the first to do so with a legislature’s vote.

The House recorded a dramatic 100-49 vote, the minimum needed, to override Gov. Jim Douglas’ veto. Its vote followed a much easier override vote in the Senate, which rebuffed the Republican governor with a vote of 23-5.

Douglas called override “not unexpected.” He had called the issue of gay marriage a distraction during a time when economic and budget issues were more important.

If this is a distraction, that means it must be taking valuable time away from other, pressing issues. So why did Gov. Douglas veto the legislation? That means that all the work done to get it to him in the first place was wasted. Of course, one could argue that a bill coming to him is largely beyond his control. But he claims he expected an override. In other words, he knew what he was doing was going to take up more time while 123 total non-bigots fixed his error in moral judgement.

“What really disappoints me is that we have spent some time on an issue during which another thousand Vermonters have lost their jobs,” the governor said Tuesday. “We need to turn out attention to balancing a budget without raising taxes, growing the economy, putting more people to work.”

More stable couples help to grow the economy. Idiot.

Among the celebrants in the lobby were former Rep. Robert Dostis, D-Waterbury, and his longtime partner, Chuck Kletecka. Dostis recalled efforts to expand gay rights dating to an anti-discrimination law passed in 1992.

“It’s been a very long battle. It’s been almost 20 years to get to this point,” Dostis said. “I think finally, most people in Vermont understand that we’re a couple like any other couple. We’re as good and as bad as any other group of people. And now I think we have a chance to prove ourselves here on forward that we’re good members of our community.”

I have to disagree with the notion that any married couple needs to prove themselves to anyone. This is about principles of equality. If they are contigent upon being good members of a community, they are not principles.

Another victory

People who aren’t blatant, proud bigots got another victory.

Iowa’s Supreme Court legalized gay marriage Friday in a unanimous and emphatic decision that makes Iowa the third state — and first in the nation’s heartland — to allow same-sex couples to wed.

Iowa joins only Massachusetts and Connecticut in permitting same-sex marriage. For six months last year, California’s high court allowed gay marriage before voters banned it in November.

The Iowa justices upheld a lower-court ruling that rejected a state law restricting marriage to a union between a man and woman.

The county attorney who defended the law said he would not seek a rehearing. The only recourse for opponents appeared to be a constitutional amendment, which could take years to ratify.

“We are firmly convinced the exclusion of gay and lesbian people from the institution of civil marriage does not substantially further any important governmental objective,” the Supreme Court wrote.

I guess Iowa isn’t part of “real America” anymore.

This is very good. Religious bigots oppose gay marriage because they believe their sexual desires are superior to those of others. They have no good reasons for such inane beliefs. They have no place in the ever-increasing morality of an ever-increasing secular culture.

Gay marriage in Maine

People seeking an end to bigotry are pushing for the passage of a bill that would allow homosexuals to marry in Maine, making it one of the few states which does not illegally discriminate on the basis of gender.

“Some have asked if this is the right time,” said Sen. Dennis Damon, D-Trenton, the bill sponsor. “To them, I say, this legislation is long overdue.”

The bill would define marriage as the union of two people, rather than one man and one woman. It would allow any two eligible people, regardless of sex, to be issued an application for a marriage license.

This should put an end to the ‘if you allow gay marriage, you should allow beastiality’ argument. It won’t. But it should.

Essentially, “two eligible people”, as far as the secular Maine government is concerned, are two people of age who are capable of consent. That means 18 and with an understanding of the terms of their secular marriage contract – in other words, non-human animals are not eligible since they cannot consent to or understand the contract. Of course, that’s the legal argument. The more interesting argument is that there is no good reason to deny homosexuals a certain set of rights. There is, however, the good reason of allowing two harmless individuals the right to a complete and happy life.

Gov. Baldacci isn’t so sure.

And while several Democratic legislators stood with gay advocates for the announcement, Gov. John Baldacci released a statement saying he hasn’t yet made up his mind on the issue.

“This debate is extremely personal for many people, and it’s an issue that I struggle with trying to find the best path forward,” Baldacci said. “I’m not prepared to say I support gay marriage today, but I will consider what I hear as the Legislature works to find the best way to address discrimination.”

The man has made up his mind. He’s a politician, though, so he needs to be careful with what he does. Maine is in the better part of the country politically, so he does have the advantage of having a fairly liberal constituency, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of bigots, especially in the north. (To give you an idea of the northern Maine bigotry potential, Sarah Palin campaigned there due to Maine splitting its electoral votes. The McCain campaign thought they had a shot up there. They didn’t, but the fact they even tried is disconcerting.)

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Carla Hopkins and Victoria Eleftheriou, of Mount Vernon, who brought their toddler, Eli, to the Statehouse to participate in the event, said they want a secure future for their son.

“The state discriminates against his family and it affects our ability to care for him in very real ways,” Hopkins said.

For example, she said after Eli was born, they had to fight with an employer to get him covered under a health care plan, something that would have been automatic if his parents were married.

This is just one of the differences between marriage and civil unions. Aside from being insulting, they prevent parents from being able to care for their children robustly.

Bob Emrich, a Baptist pastor who leads the Maine Marriage Alliance, said he hopes for a respectful debate on the issue. The alliance wants a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage.

He said the gay marriage bill is “really bad for society.”

Whoa, back up the irony train. You want to be respectful? Don’t say bigoted things that aren’t true because a piece of literature claims the currently most popular god endorses that bigotry. Then you might have a shot at being respectful. Until then, you’ve done nothing to earn any respect accept insofar as a literary critic deserves respect.

“It’s changing the very foundation of our society,” he said. “It’s going to have a major impact on children. It says something about the importance, or lack of importance, of fathers and mothers.”

Yes, your god forbid children have health insurance and their parents have more complete relationships to reinforce their love. How dreadful.

Good call, Jerry

California Attorney General Jerry Brown has joined the good fight.

Brown, a former California Democratic governor, said the California court’s summer ruling allowing gay marriage led the way to his argument.

“The right of same-sex couples to marry is protected by the liberty interests of the constitution,” Brown said by telephone, referring to the ruling. “If a fundamental right can be take away without any particular justification, then what kind of a right is it?”

The fact that California has a simple majority of bigots is not reason enough to take away the right of a minority. The reason it takes 38 states to ratify an amendment to the U.S. constitution is that it’s quite possible that 26 states could impose highly disagreeable rule over the other 24 – imagine if 25 southern states could have banded together and banned interracial marriage. (Unsurprisingly, it would likely be mostly southern states, again, voting in favor of bigotry if an amendment banning gay marriage ever came to a vote at the state level.)