A challenge to theists

Or anyone, really:

Demonstrate how atheism inherently leads to any particular philosophy.

Does atheism lead to libertarianism? If so, how? Nihilism? How? Utilitarianism? Humanism? Pragmatism? How, how, how?

17 Responses

  1. Atheism leads to every philosophy ever held because people begin life without belief in any gods.

    Also, Hitler.

  2. If that’s what it takes to lead to any philosophy, then breathing leads us to all sorts of crazy places.

    But that isn’t a terribly helpful answer.

    Hitler was a Christian creationist who acted out of racism and nationalism (neither of which were derived from his religious beliefs).

  3. From the theistic perspective, it leads inevitably to Cotard’s syndrome and metaphysical nihilism for certain people.

    Also, trees.

  4. I asked about philosophies, but I don’t see how you could possibly have an easier time arguing mental disorders. How does atheism lead to any disorder? How is Cotard’s Syndrome mutually exclusive with belief in a deity?

    How does atheism lead to nihilism? How does atheism tell you anything about morality?

  5. I think Brian is just being funny with both of his comments and not trying to give an answer.

    Go to sleep already, Brian and Michael, it is (was) the middle of the night…lol

  6. Poe’s Law.

    And I work overnight.

  7. A theist is someone who believes in at least some god.

    An atheist god who is otherwise rational would suffer from Cotard’s syndrome and could only reasonably be a nihilist.

    From the theistic perspective, atheism should always lead inevitably to metaphysical (not moral) nihilism for certain people, i.e. gods.

  8. Very little of that makes sense.

  9. I was going to say that, but I wanted to make sure I wasn’t just being ignorant.

    I got lost starting with “an atheist god”

  10. Does atheism lead to any particular philosophy?

    No more than Christianity does.

    You have Christians on almost every side of every philosophical question there is.

    I assume the same would be true of atheists.

    Its true that there are probably more Christians on the pro-life side than the pro-choice side of the abortion question but you have plenty on both sides. Just as an example.

    I would say its true of atheists regarding that same question. Some on both sides.

    People are not broken up into particular philosophical groups. At least not in a black and white sense. People generally make up their own minds about stuff regardless of what everyone else says.

    I’m sure there are some Christians out there with more in common with you philosophically than with me and probably vise versa with atheists.

  11. and where the hell does this ‘Cotard’s syndrome’ come into it?

    Atheism leads to people thinking they are dead or don’t exist? (thats what wiki says it is anyways)

    I think mental illness might lead to something like that on occasion but… I dunno.

  12. Can you demonstrate that the concept of “god” precludes a god from being an atheist?

  13. No more than Christianity does.

    I would include Christianity itself as a philosophy, albeit a not very coherent one that fails to answer many practical scenarios.

  14. Can you demonstrate that the concept of “god” precludes a god from being an atheist?

    Is anything you say going to make any sense?

  15. If a god does not believe in the existence of gods, what are the implications for his philosophy?

  16. Again, you make no sense, Brian.

  17. Of course Christianity is a philosophy. I’m just trying to say that no one follows 100% of a philosophy and you can find Christians on every side of an issue.

    It makes it hard for me to say that Christianity leads people to believe ______. Because it really doesn’t.

    If I can’t say that about Christianity I certainly couldn’t about atheism.

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