Nationalism and stupidity

Here is the epitome of nationalism:

Here is what I just read on Facebook:

Why don’t you go tell every veteran that they are racist then.

Agreeing to die for you nation is pretty nationalistic. But then again, you apparently wouldn’t understand that. Nationalism can also be inclusive; not inherently divisive and racist. But then again, maybe you don’t understand that either

Go ask a soldier and get back to me. If you don’t like our nation then move out.

These were all responses to another person’s posts contending and explaining why nationalism is categorically racist. (He was using “racist” with some liberty, but that was never really even the issue.) It may be the least fruitful discussion I have ever seen on Facebook. It’s like the person conflating patriotism with nationalism has never even considered these arguments. I…I’m speechless. I have to let George Orwell take over:

A nationalist is one who thinks solely, or mainly, in terms of competitive prestige. He may be a positive or a negative nationalist — that is, he may use his mental energy either in boosting or in denigrating — but at any rate his thoughts always turn on victories, defeats, triumphs and humiliations. He sees history, especially contemporary history, as the endless rise and decline of great power units, and every event that happens seems to him a demonstration that his own side is on the upgrade and some hated rival is on the downgrade. But finally, it is important not to confuse nationalism with mere worship of success. The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him.

Update: I usually make it a point to not publish names that come from non-public discussions, but whereas this person defriended the status maker over my comments, I don’t feel bad to say that I think Allyson McCreery is a twit who deserves zero respect.

4 Responses

  1. Maybe you should leave the Facebook drama where it belongs: on Facebook

  2. You’ve managed to quickly lose a lot of my respect, as well. More so for general avoidance, goal post moving, and hypocrisy than being a twit, but the same result none-the-less.

  3. Also, if you do bother to respond, I will be happy to summarize the discussion at the point when you lose track of it in a few posts.

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